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they had amazing investment in clean energy. this $90 billion that mitt romney brought up last night and -- but there's not one signature saying that came out of that that we can all say hurrah! i think that sort of hurt obama. he also doesn't have that signature thing that he's driving toward because the big government is not very popular right now. it is difficult to say -- he can say i want 100,000 teachers or new construction jobs but he's stuck in the middling generalities about it instead of saying i want to build a super train that goes from los angeles to california. >> eliot: tim, who would have thought that barack obama, we could say he doesn't have the vision thing. we think he's so smart and he is. we think he does have vision and i think he does. but he has not presented it. he has never articulated his conception of what government is for, except, as you say, beyond the -- when it came to government -- he built it, infrastructure is the high-speed rail that no one thinks will get done in our lifetime. doug this is
they had amazing investment in clean energy. this $90 billion that mitt romney brought up last night and -- but there's not one signature saying that came out of that that we can all say hurrah! i think that sort of hurt obama. he also doesn't have that signature thing that he's driving toward because the big government is not very popular right now. it is difficult to say -- he can say i want 100,000 teachers or new construction jobs but he's stuck in the middling generalities about it instead...
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does that energy misstatement drive you crazy, too? >> i think it is so wrong of mitt romney to talk in the way he does. first of all, he was out there talking about the oil and gas subsidies because they had been there 100 years. a lot of things are different now than they were 100 years ago. thank god. second of all he took more risks in one single year at bain capital on any given year than have been taken here. i think really his problem is he can't decide who obama is. some days he's a socialist or a capitalist. he needs to make up his mind. the truth is coming out and it will catch up to mitt romney. >> jennifer: there is a ton of material from last night. what drives you most crazy? >> the lie that he told when he said he cared about the middle class. we heard him talking about the 47%. he said it's not my job to care about those people. they don't take responsibility for their lives. you know who do? nearly everyone in the 47% starting with medicaid moms. we've been studying for a month. >> jennifer: what did you learn? >> i've
does that energy misstatement drive you crazy, too? >> i think it is so wrong of mitt romney to talk in the way he does. first of all, he was out there talking about the oil and gas subsidies because they had been there 100 years. a lot of things are different now than they were 100 years ago. thank god. second of all he took more risks in one single year at bain capital on any given year than have been taken here. i think really his problem is he can't decide who obama is. some days he's...
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putting us in control of our energy future, now. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tabl. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center... working together has never worked so well. >>> okay, an upbeat jobs report may shake up the presidential race. the unemployment rate fell below 8% for the first time since january 2009. and that's when president obama took office. some say it is a huge boost for the president's campaign. on the flip side, republicans are downplaying the report's significance saying it doesn't reflect the big picture or unemployed people who got discouraged and stopped looking for work. some of them are staying, it's smoke and m
putting us in control of our energy future, now. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tabl. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female...
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at shell, we believe the world needs a broader mix of energies. that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our partner in brazil, shell is producing ethanol - a biofuel made from renewable sugarcane. >>a minute, mom! let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. >>> i told you "american idol" people this. this past week damage control after two "american idol" judges begin feuding before the show even goes on the air. dean, people were laughing at me when i said mariah carey is three people in one, you never know what's going to come out. nicki minaj, who knows what personality is going to come out. mariah carey apparently told barbara walters she was worried nicki minaj might pull a gun on her. most people say, is this show falling apart before it starts? no, i'm sure the "american idol" people love this publicity. >> absolutely. ratings were down 25% last year. they fired judges. this is what they want. in fact, steven tyler, one of them w
at shell, we believe the world needs a broader mix of energies. that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our partner in brazil, shell is producing ethanol - a biofuel made from renewable sugarcane. >>a minute, mom! let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. >>> i told you "american idol" people this. this past week damage control after two "american...
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i think his strategy of investing in education, in research, in energy independence, in infrastructure, is a winning strategy. i think that's the reason why we've added five million jobs in the last 30 months, more jobs than in eight years of george w. bush, and when you consider that the policies being advanced by governor romney are the same as those pursued by george w. bush that got us into this mess, i think the american people are going to see that and look past what is admittedly not the president's best night. i give it to governor romney on style points. but on substance, and that's what matters, the president wins and should. >> you're a friend of the president's. you know him better than almost anybody in the political world, certainly. what went wrong, do you think? what was the thinking? was there something we didn't know about? people suggesting he may have been given bad news just to explain the sort of strangely morose mood he seemed to be in. >> i really don't know. i wasn't in denver. i know whenever i go to denver it takes me a little while to adjust to the altitude.
i think his strategy of investing in education, in research, in energy independence, in infrastructure, is a winning strategy. i think that's the reason why we've added five million jobs in the last 30 months, more jobs than in eight years of george w. bush, and when you consider that the policies being advanced by governor romney are the same as those pursued by george w. bush that got us into this mess, i think the american people are going to see that and look past what is admittedly not the...
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let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. >>> it is time for one more healthchecking of trail mix, where we find arnold schwarzenegger back on some turf. the terminator star and former california governator returned to the mall of america in bloomington, minnesota to sign copies of his memoir called "total recall." get it? fans will find the scene familiar. it's where he shot part of his 1996 christmas film "jingle all the way." ben affleck admit his feelings for president obama are not as certain as they were burn. in an interview, the boston-born actor and aacademy award-winning screenwriter said i voted for obama last time, although he got to be all things to all people then. now he has a record which makes it really different. i obviously have more complicated feelings. >>> speaking of beantown complication, duval patrick says scott brown's attacks on elizabeth warren make him a, quote, bay state birther. brown's been trailing in the polls while attacking warren over her claims of being native american in herita
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always been a senator who has tried to work on immigration reform, work on the environmental issues and energy issues and all the things i stand for. he was there in 2003 when i ran in the recall. he was 2005 for the special election, 2006 for the reelecti reelection and when we tried to pass environmental legislation to reduce greenhouse gas. he was very supportive in every step of the way so i jumped in and helped him right from the beginning. >> if you had been president four years ago, instead of barack obama, things have been different, you could have been if you had been born here. who knows. if you had been, do you honestly think you could have done any better than barack obama has done, inheriting such a huge financial mess? is the reality that whoever took over was going to be pretty much where he is now? what do you think? >> we maybe would have done things a little differently, but i can guarantee you that the president is doing everything that he can to solve the problems. i cannot imagine that president obama is sitting there and saying to himself, let me not fix this or let me ha
always been a senator who has tried to work on immigration reform, work on the environmental issues and energy issues and all the things i stand for. he was there in 2003 when i ran in the recall. he was 2005 for the special election, 2006 for the reelecti reelection and when we tried to pass environmental legislation to reduce greenhouse gas. he was very supportive in every step of the way so i jumped in and helped him right from the beginning. >> if you had been president four years...
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energy of a crowd. part of the challenge that governor romney's going to have is he's gotten affirmation of being aggressive and it's easy when you have had that to take that in to the next setting. most debate strategies don't work as well the second time and in a town hall setting it's a particular problem because it's people asking the questions and aggression towards the moderator in the debate is probably not going to fly in a town hall. that said, he's getting a lot of affirmation for being presidential as opposed to likable. and i think that that's something he's going to take in at least psychologically in to the contest. obama i suspect will see a fooisier performance. >> okay. let's follow up after that debate october 16th. candy crowley. thank you very much, melissa maxi way from emery university. need to talk vice presidential debate. you have vice president joe biden, congressman paul ryan facing off. special coverage next thursday night. >>> just ahead, developing situation along the turke
energy of a crowd. part of the challenge that governor romney's going to have is he's gotten affirmation of being aggressive and it's easy when you have had that to take that in to the next setting. most debate strategies don't work as well the second time and in a town hall setting it's a particular problem because it's people asking the questions and aggression towards the moderator in the debate is probably not going to fly in a town hall. that said, he's getting a lot of affirmation for...
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you know, i don't want to have a green energy future. it is an amazing thing. and the reason he is trying to obfuscate here is because that tax cut plan is something the american people don't want to support. a huge tax cut for the wealthy paid for by the middle class or blowing a hole in our deficit. the wrong recipe for both david, he says his plan is not a tax cut plan. and that, you know, he is going to find a way to offset them. do you not take him at his word? >> it is a complete fairy tale. it is a 20% tax cut across the board for everyone. huge business tax cuts. everyone that looks at it agrees the numbers, 5 trillion over ten years, he says i'll pay for it with deductions he won't name. so, you know, the middle class and the president made this point in the debate, if you think somehow you're not going to bear the burden for this then take that risk and vote for governor romney. but again, this isn't just some issue that he threw out one day on the campaign trail. it's the center piece of his entire campaign. his economic philosophy. by the way, he ma
you know, i don't want to have a green energy future. it is an amazing thing. and the reason he is trying to obfuscate here is because that tax cut plan is something the american people don't want to support. a huge tax cut for the wealthy paid for by the middle class or blowing a hole in our deficit. the wrong recipe for both david, he says his plan is not a tax cut plan. and that, you know, he is going to find a way to offset them. do you not take him at his word? >> it is a complete...
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campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> it's not just jack welch out there questioning the unemployment numbers today which fell to 7.8%. here he is again, florida congressman allen west wrote on his facebook page, quote, somehow by manipulation of data we are all of a sudden below 8% unemployment a month from the presidential election. this is orwellian to say the least and representative of sal lynn ski from the book "rules for radicals" a must read for all who want to know how the left strategize. this is the guy who thought there were 80 communists in the u.s. congress. don't forget him. >> i believe there's about 78 to 81 members of the democratic party that are members of the co communist party. >> he never forgets to say democrat party. we'll be right back. >>> and i fought against long odds in a deep blue state, but i was a severely conservative republican governor. >> sounds dangerous. anyway, welcome back. that was mitt romney famously touting his conservative credentials calling
campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> it's not just jack welch out there questioning the unemployment numbers today which fell to 7.8%. here he is again, florida congressman allen west wrote on his facebook page, quote, somehow by manipulation of data we are all of a sudden below 8% unemployment a month from the presidential election. this is orwellian to say the least and representative of...
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let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. >>> trying to gain some traction in tonight's first big debate? well, one area where mitt romney is facing a huge hurdle in overcoming the lead that president obama has is with latino voters. take a look at this. cnn-orc poll of latino's voters choice for president whopping 70% for president obama compared to 26% for mrr. romney doing worse than john mccain did in 2008. mccain got 31% of the latino vote. worse than bush. bush got back in 2004, 44% of latino votes. barbara is joining us live from denver. one of romney's senior advisors and co-chair of his effort in virginia. toercht's debate, first of all, it's on domestic policy, but how does mitt romney -- how does he appeal more to latino voters because clearly even colorado, he has to get at least a quarter to one-third to make some real inroads there. >> sure. i think the way he appeals to latino vo
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domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. ...and we inspected his brakes for free. -free is good. -free is very good. [ male announcer ] now get 50% off brake pads and shoes at meineke. >> moody's analytics chief economist mark sdmr andi, white house correspondent jackie khan, cnn white house correspondent jessica yellin, and former congressional budget director douglas holtz-a kin. we're five minutes into the show now. let me start out by asking you whether you two, whether you both agree that the labor department didn't cook the books, that the question is there a mistake here, or is this correct? were the numbers correct? >> the numbers were collected in a professional way. it's the same procedures used every month. it's a statistical anomaly, not a conspiracy. >> it's silly. silly because these are professionals. i think it's counter productive because it speaks to the legitimacy of the political process. >> then let's -- politically can we agree that was a good headline for the president to ha
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what would you say on the energy level? >> there's actually great energy and excitement about the elections. we've actually seen an influx of more aipgs american pacific islander nonprofits, doing outreach work to get more of our community registered. but at the same time, over 31% of our community are undecided. a lot of them are first-time voters, so the parties and the presidential campaigns really need to do a lot more work in reaching out to our community. >> toby, in 2008, barack obama won 62% of the asian american vote compared to 35% for john mccain, according to the exit polls. is there any chance of that kind of a landside for president obama this time around, or is there too much of a juxtaposition between the immigration issue and the economy? >> no, i think it's very possible. i mean, there's certainly an old way and a new way of engaging voters and the president's campaign has certainly started very early, engaging asian american and pacific islanderers voters and he's also created a whole new sort of stage fo
what would you say on the energy level? >> there's actually great energy and excitement about the elections. we've actually seen an influx of more aipgs american pacific islander nonprofits, doing outreach work to get more of our community registered. but at the same time, over 31% of our community are undecided. a lot of them are first-time voters, so the parties and the presidential campaigns really need to do a lot more work in reaching out to our community. >> toby, in 2008,...
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energy independence, education, trade agreements, cutting the deficit and help for small businesses. the website, nextnewdeal, discovered this five-point plan, well, has been pushed before. by senator john mccain when he accepted the republican nomination four years ago. the five points were in a different order, but in the speech, exactly the same thing. there's really no real difference. four years earlier, here it is, an almost identical five-point plan was offered by president george w. bush when he was accepting the republican nomination for re-election. now, the five points were in a different order in this speech, in the actual speech. small businesses were mentioned twice. you get the picture in all of this. bush also repeatedly mentioned no child left behind even though it wasn't one of the five points. we need to see president obama dismantle romney as more of the same and dismantle these romney lies. here's the president in wisconsin today. >> whoever it was that was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what the real mitt romney's been saying for the
energy independence, education, trade agreements, cutting the deficit and help for small businesses. the website, nextnewdeal, discovered this five-point plan, well, has been pushed before. by senator john mccain when he accepted the republican nomination four years ago. the five points were in a different order, but in the speech, exactly the same thing. there's really no real difference. four years earlier, here it is, an almost identical five-point plan was offered by president george w....
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the romney campaign today said he did not mean what he said about half the energy companies supported by the obama administration going bankrupt. he didn't actually mean that. sort of rolled over from democratic and liberal bewilderment last night that mr. romney was abandoning his main economic plan that he was running on, his $5 trillion tax cut plan, his big trickle-down plan, to be rolled over from democrats being bewildered about that to the beltway press and mainstream pundits i think now having a hard time deciding whether they are supposed to call that a lie or whether they're supposed to just say this is a radically new position for the candidate and welcome to it. joining us now, jonathan alter, columnist for "bloomberg news" and msnbc political analyst. mr. alter, great to have you here. >> hi, rachel. >> how does president obama counter the strategy of mitt romney's to unveil whole new ideas or deny he ever held the ideas that he plainly has held? it's one thing to have a truth squad fact checking online. how do you counter that at the podium? >> one is i'm rubber, you're
the romney campaign today said he did not mean what he said about half the energy companies supported by the obama administration going bankrupt. he didn't actually mean that. sort of rolled over from democratic and liberal bewilderment last night that mr. romney was abandoning his main economic plan that he was running on, his $5 trillion tax cut plan, his big trickle-down plan, to be rolled over from democrats being bewildered about that to the beltway press and mainstream pundits i think now...
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. >> and he didn't talk about all the things the campaign has spent so much time and energy prosecuting over the past several months. he didn't talk about bain, how mitt romney made his money, didn't talk about the middle class as much in that context as i expected. he didn't talk about the 47%. i know when you're the president you want to be careful not to swing down, but -- >> how about just saying why you're president, why you wanted to be president, why you made the decisions you made, why you didn't want to have 40 million people sitting in the emergency room. >> i think he tried to do that, but i don't think he did it as well as he would have liked, and certainly they're going to take a new approach next time. mitt romney just came to play. mark is right. >> an interesting thing, mark, back to that again, romney seemed to know it was free form. it was like a city basketball game. you know, winners get the ball. every time you make a good shot. it's not like in the nba where you have to turn the ball over. he knew if he kept shooting, he could keep hitting and control the ball, and
. >> and he didn't talk about all the things the campaign has spent so much time and energy prosecuting over the past several months. he didn't talk about bain, how mitt romney made his money, didn't talk about the middle class as much in that context as i expected. he didn't talk about the 47%. i know when you're the president you want to be careful not to swing down, but -- >> how about just saying why you're president, why you wanted to be president, why you made the decisions...
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tremendous energy now, but i think here's where we were going into the debate. people like -- they said i like the guy, i like his family. he is a good person. he is not doing a very good job. the opponent, then the next question is, is the challenger up to it? is he the person we want? frankly, going into wednesday night, people had not answered that second question. romney had not made the sale. i think what you saw wednesday night was the first opportunity that the average person had to see these two candidates head-to-head for an extended period of time, and when they saw that, guess who won? romney won. he looked presidential, he had confidence, he had a plan. he was confident in that plan. the presidt was in a situation where he couldn't defend the last four years. maybe that's not because he is not a good debater. we know he is a good debater. he couldn't defend the last four years because you can't defend it. you can't defend not getting the job done. i think that's -- this has changed. yesterday's one last thing, candy. yesterday we had 150,000 doors be
tremendous energy now, but i think here's where we were going into the debate. people like -- they said i like the guy, i like his family. he is a good person. he is not doing a very good job. the opponent, then the next question is, is the challenger up to it? is he the person we want? frankly, going into wednesday night, people had not answered that second question. romney had not made the sale. i think what you saw wednesday night was the first opportunity that the average person had to see...
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president biden is a very experienced debater, but i think his challenge here is to have a little bit of energy, to have a smile, but to also survive against paul ryan, who though inexperienced on the national stage, is quite intelligent. i think we'll be bringing a lot of numbers, a lot of analysis to the debate. but biden has that populous touch. i think it will really help him. >> it really is going to be fascinating to watch on thursday and talk about as well. who do you think is going to win that thing, robert? >> i think it's going to be a draw. it's more important for paul ryan to come out with that threshold of being in executive office. >> nia-malika? >> i got to go draw too, play it safe. >> you guys. you newspaper people. keith, i know your answer. i'll ask you anyway. >> biden is clearly going to win this debate. he's a great debater. ryan is going to be on the defensive. >> thank you so much. appreciate your time, as always. >> thanks, craig. >> i'll be back next weekend for more coverage of all of the developments on the campaign trail. it is all here on msnbc, the place for polit
president biden is a very experienced debater, but i think his challenge here is to have a little bit of energy, to have a smile, but to also survive against paul ryan, who though inexperienced on the national stage, is quite intelligent. i think we'll be bringing a lot of numbers, a lot of analysis to the debate. but biden has that populous touch. i think it will really help him. >> it really is going to be fascinating to watch on thursday and talk about as well. who do you think is...
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let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. have more fiber than other leading brands. they're the better way to enjoy your fiber. can your moisturizer do that? [ female announcer ] dermatologist recommended aveeno has an oat formula, now proven to build a moisture reserve, so skin can replenish itself. that's healthy skin for life. only from aveeno. >>> carb lovers get ready to celebra celebrate. eating the right kinds of carbs could help with weight loss. what are the right kinds of carbs. elie creager shows us in this daily dose. >> there is a study in the journal of the american medical association that shows that neither very low carbohydrate diets or very high carbohydrate diets are ideal. eat good carbs in the right amounts. when you do so according to the study, you could be burning more calories and be healthier at same time. what are good carbs? basically carbohydrates come from a variety of foods, not just breads and starches. good carbs come from whole fruits and vegetables, all different colors, and you want to make sure half of your plate is fruits and veg
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. >> there is an energy bill sponsored by bush and cheney. you know who voted for it? might never know. that one. you know who voted against it? me. >> eliot: a few of the unforgettable moments in debate history. some helped the candidate. some hurt the candidate and some had little impact at all. joining me now in denver to discuss the potential game changing moments in tomorrow's debate, wanna summers, national political reporter for politico and seth masket, chair of the university of denver political science department, a colorado state delegate and the author of "no middle ground," a perfect description of our politics these days, unfortunately. they were the memorable moment of 30 years of presidential debate, not one was substantive. it is only the zingers that matter? are we waiting for the one big it moment or is there going to be a philosophical engagement? >> the thing that i've found fascinating, there sure, there are the zingers that folks like you and i sit and talk about that i write about. you ask the 3% to 4% of people, they probably can't name more th
. >> there is an energy bill sponsored by bush and cheney. you know who voted for it? might never know. that one. you know who voted against it? me. >> eliot: a few of the unforgettable moments in debate history. some helped the candidate. some hurt the candidate and some had little impact at all. joining me now in denver to discuss the potential game changing moments in tomorrow's debate, wanna summers, national political reporter for politico and seth masket, chair of the...